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  interesting question

  by jayjay78 in

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  firstly i'm a df'd witness.. i was in the org all my life.. vividly remember out witnessing as a kid in the 80s with my mum and having apostates jumping houses before we could get to them ..all the way up the street.. remember it because the guy looked like tom baker from dr who - frizzy hair and long colourful scarf.. i think the people at the doors were made more curious by them actually, so when we knocked ,they were inclined to have a listen.. anyway i'm out and cant see myself ever going back,because my family has fully shunned me..and even if i was to go back and be a member..i don't think i could forgive them...totally scarred me.. anyway my question is :.

  if you were head of this religion and you wanted to keep it clean and pure etc..how would you deal with people who delib broke the rules?.

  no shunning of course..but whats the alternative?

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  If I were running the religion, rather than placing myself in and enforcement role,my purpose would be to be of assistance to anyone wishing to develop or maintain a personal relationship with God. I would teach from the platform whatever I though the Bible had to say and let those in the audience apply it in their lives as best they could or as they see fit. If they needed help in reaching their personal or spiritual goals and asked for my assistance, I'd offer it to them.

  If there were certain ones who were living lives that were blatantly contrary to what was being taught, they'd be welcome to attend but to avoid any conflict of interest, I simply wouldn't use them in the program being taught from the platform or in any capacity where it seemed as if they were representing the Congregation.

  As it is in the rest of life, rather than infantilizing the members of the Congregation with rules, policies and regulation, they would be allowed to use their own "Bible Trained" conscience and personal discretion to decide for themselves who they associate with in the congregation or anywhere else in their life.
  
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  The most sick statement put in JW print

  by Chook in

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  wt 1973 p568.

  "did you know, for example, that mothers and fathers that stroke the genitals of their fretful babies to keep them quiet are unwittingly encouraging them to become maturbators later on?".

  what sick fu... writing this article thought the the average person did this to keep kids quiet..

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  They must be running out of trumped up "issues" to raise.

  No topic is off limits in the Watchtower and during the Watchtower study no matter how age inappropriate they may be. I can't imagine what new people or visitors must think when they hear this stuff. Luckily, new ones are a rare occurrence in the Kingdom Hall.
  
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  Midweek meeting video

  by aboveusonlysky in

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  2. child-abuse

  did anybody see the service meeting video this week?.

  australian sister was sexually abused as a child and thought of ending her life at 14 years old, sometime later jw's call on her father who accepts a study and eventually the whole family becomes witnesses, life gets much better as the sister immerses herself in pioneering etc, she still has some dark days but prayer along with going for walks and swimming has helped her cope with bad memories of child abuse, the new system (just around the corner) will completely fix everything......... i'm dumbfounded, the hypocrisy has literally rendered me speechless......comments anybody?.

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  Besides the obvious irony, the first thing that comes to mind is I wonder if her father was the one abusing her ? If so did he get treatment or did he go on to become a JW and continue abusing ? If so, were his victims part of those included in the numbers we heard about in the Australian hearings?

  You'd think they'd steer clear of anything to do with the topic of child abuse.
  
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  Jesus walked into a bar...

  by Slidin Fast in

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  he asks the barkeep for 13 glasses of water.

  he turns to his 12 companions and winks....

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  A Jewish man and Catholic woman were married and they had both a Priest and a Rabbi perform the ceremony.

  Although it was obvious to those in attendance that each religious man was trying to out do the other, they were polite about it and things went surprisingly well until everyone gathered outside to see the newlyweds off on their Honeymoon.

  As the young couple climbed into their limousine, the Priest sprinkled Holy water over the vehicle. Upon seeing this, and not to be outdone, the Rabbi snipped an inch off of the cars tail pipe.

  What's 668 ?

  668 is the Next Door Neighbor of the Wild Beast.
  
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  Circuit ASSembly low-lites

  by FedUpJW in

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  2. beliefs

  so in an effort to relieve some pressure here are what i term the low-lites of yesterday's assembly that i had to endure for the sake of family still in and my progressing fade.

  apologies in advance for being pretty long winded.. these may not all be the actual words used, but the ones i use are close, and they pretty well say what was said from the platform.. right off the bat in the opening prayer the praises of the governing body were spoken.

  thanking the g.b.

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  And don't make a habit of watching the news because it is Satan's world so the news will always be bad, and we might hear something that will erode our faith. (pedophiles in the org?)

  And we all know, when it comes to guarding our faith, Jehovah's holy spirit is no match against the evening news.
  
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  Caption Competition

  by Tallon in

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  "my dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking dom perignon '53 above the temperature of 38 degrees fahrenheit.".

  over to you ....

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  Heaven is ready and prepared for Armageddon - Talk A Morris III

  by Listener in

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  and why he doesn't go to the gym, jog or workout!

  also no survivalist mentality is required.deciphering warship has posted a youtube of part of the speech given by the one and only, anthony morris the iii at last years imitate jesus convention.deciphering warship makes this comment.

  governing body member anthony morris demonized preparing for this disaster by building such a bunker or (bomb shelter)going so far, as to warn even against stocking up food.

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  I'd say he was talking out of both sides of his mouth but in his case I think it would be physically impossible.

  
  
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  Caption Competition

  by Tallon in

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  "my dear girl, there are some things that just aren't done, such as drinking dom perignon '53 above the temperature of 38 degrees fahrenheit.".

  over to you ....

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  DNS Issue (Problem Accessing Site)

  by Simon in

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  2. announcements

  if anyone had any issues accessing the site over the last 24 hours or so, i finally tracked it down to a dns issue that was affecting users of google dns in certain zones.

  the issue was caused by a rouge dnssec entry left by the registrar (godaddy) when they did an update which caused some dns lookups to fail.. hopefully it should be fixed now but may take a while to ripple through to everyone due to caching..

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  Pete Zahut

  I was Sleepless here in Seattle and couldn't log on to the site last night . I found myself imagining all sorts of things as to what was going on. Remembering how they like to mess with us apostates, I chalked the whole thing up to Deee-mon activity....that was always the go-to explanation for all unpleasant and mysterious goings on, back in my JW days.
  
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  I think we are being shunned

  by Tallon in

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  i have not read all the discussions about the recent regional convention where the org is now ramping up the diabolical act of shunning.

  i am not sure as to which ‘category’ of persons it now applies.. my wife and i have faded over the past couple of years.

  our book-study conductor used to drop by to give us the magazines.

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  Pete Zahut

  Our book-study conductor used to drop by to give us the magazines.
  

  Maybe there was genuine concern for you on his part but it sort of cheapens it when you realize that if you're inactive, they can count the time they spend with you.

  I just like to know if we have possibly been added to the esteemed group of people that is to be shunned.

  Maybe they've finally taken the hint that you've moved on. I've come to realize that our leaving the JW's was not as big of a deal to them as it was to us. After 30 years fully active in the same Congregation it was 3 years after our last meeting before anyone came to look for us.